Remember CCP Falcon, the level of protection that concord provides players is the same level of job protection you have when the high sec players decide to quit. Will you survive the next 20% layoff when it happens?

When it comes to a gank, the ganker already knows you're in belt. The moment they warp in, they are locking you as soon as the game lets them (takes time to come out of warp on grid).

So here is the list.

Keep your ships aligned so that the moment someone tries to lock you, you insta warp. Unfortunately you will eventually move out of range of the rocks so this isn't viable. In most systems there are multiple places to be aligned to. Align to point 1 until you reach the edge of your range, then realign to point 2, repeat ad infinitum

You can warp off the moment a potential ganker (just because someone warps in doesn't mean they are a ganker) warps in and hope to warp off before they finish falling out of warp. However, now the gankers don't even have to gank to stop you from mining. They just have to camp belts. If your alt (or friend) is also camping the belt in a hull with jamming bonuses the camping ganker will move on pretty fast

Moving for mining barges and exhumers is pointless. You will still have an alignment time before warping and you won't be able to speed tank their guns. I can see it working for a venture though. Align as per point one and this is no longer an issue

Your best option is to simply go with a tanky setup and hope that they won't bother to gank you if they have to lose more isk than what they will destroy. This falls apart if the ganker doesn't care about isk loss vs isk destroyed. Your tanks value is not based on the isk won vs lost relationship. It is based on the damaged able to absorbed before concord can land on grid and jam the ganker/s relationship

You can hire protection. Either hire someone to sit in belt with a pvp fit ship or hire mercs to war dec the gankers. Either one will probably cost you more than simply replacing a lost ship. At least if you get ganked you get insurance payout, salvage all the wrecks (yours and the gankers), and loot all the wrecks. If they pod you, you get a kill right and you can now gank them at any time without CONCORD involvement. Also, if the ganker is in an NPC corp, hiring a merc corp won't work. If it becomes known that you have a good working relationship with someone who is able to make ganking difficult, a ganking group will look for easier meat, think about the benefits of prevention of the ganking cycle rather then just protection of your hull

DScan is meaningless in hi-sec.I don't know where to begin here. D-Scan is a pretty impressive tool when you know how to use it correctly. Hint D-Scan and Overview are designed to work together.


So at what point is not being AFK suppose to protect you from being ganked?
Sure it helps. You are there to direct drones and possibly pop a few after losing a ship (key phrase, "after being ganked"). You could also get your other ships out while they focus on one. So not being AFK can certainly reduce the number of ships that get ganked (time permitting before CONCORD shows). Odds are, in tanked skiffs, you can be AFK and probably only lose one before CONCORD shows even in a .5 system. Being AFK anywhere while undocked removes any argument for defence.

There is no risk to gank in hi-sec. The ships they use are so cheap and easy to replace the whole risk thing has been circumvented.

Ship blows up, so what...just buy another.

Everyone knows your name, no probelm just buy another character.

The game is so saturated with isk that isk has removed the risk factor.

You fail at logic.

People mine afk to make ISK while doing other things.

People either do not want to play to make ISK,
or do not want to put effort into it to make ISK,
or they lack time to actively play to make ISK.


Is it really that hard? -.-

Never once mentioned afk mining...but if it makes you feel better feel free to make stuff up I said.

Sorry but, use D-scanner and watch for gankers isn't an explanation at all. How do you recognize a ganker on d-scan in hi-sec?

Which is (again) why I suggested that Bumping should not be a CONCORD offense, rather that victims of a (failed) gank attempt should have a 60 second immunity from Bumping once CONCORD arrives on the scene.

Read my post again and turn off the grrr carebears grrr this time. It is LESS hand-holding than CONCORD as it must be manually triggered.

Please, tell me how would you abuse the idea, I may have overlooked something.

having people willing to join is.